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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Jul 10, 2006 2:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new york times article regarding rhino

On that note, I should point out that people posting any stream-only workaround theories in this forum or elsewhere could end a good thing here. FYI to those so inclined- Don't...

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Poster: Ole Uncle John Date: Jul 12, 2006 9:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new york times article regarding rhino

Most everything that ever made it out of the vault is now VERY WELL circulated (helped tremendously by previous availability here) and I personally have managed to get most of what I want, or have friends who have what I'm lacking, so now my own hope is that perhaps Rhino can put out some stuff NOT already in circulation anywhere.

Now that would be worth paying for.

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Jul 12, 2006 9:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new york times article regarding rhino

excellent point

i would love to listen to sbd's from the June 83 run, as an example, but coming from the position of a corporate entity, will they ever bother with these?
probably not

will they ever put some of the less marketable shows up for grabs for heads to process and distribute for free?
if it was unlikely before it is far less likely now that it is no longer a gd decision

will be interesting to see what does transpire...

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Poster: DEADBUCK Date: Jul 13, 2006 9:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new york times article regarding rhino

what will happen? well dudes will retire sooner or later and have some money in their pockets. Better put that money in their shoes! else they will get those deep elem blues!

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Poster: gphishmon Date: Jul 13, 2006 4:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new york times article regarding rhino

I'm a bit concerned about a big record label owning the entire GD live collection. If you think pulling the soundboards was harsh, wait till you see what happens when a corporate entity that cares only about the bottom line gets hold of the vault. At minimum, I see a demand to shut down all GD material on this site, even streaming. At worst, well, I won't say it, cause I don't want to give them any ideas.

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Poster: DEADBUCK Date: Jul 14, 2006 5:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new york times article regarding rhino

after all will be said and done...I bet it will be like the Beatles...micheal will own it all! how freakin bizzare is that!?

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Jul 14, 2006 7:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new york times article regarding rhino

To me the most important thing would be regular, timely releases. I'm willing to give Rhino the benefit of the doubt, and if they're smart they'll realize that the more stuff they release, and the quicker they do so, the more $$$ they'll rake in.

Let's face it--the fan base for this stuff is US, and we are a limited niche audience to be sure...but if nothing else this audience has proven to be ravenous for as much material as possible and the advantage Rhino has is that it now has a ton of material to lay out there.

"If they sell it, we will buy", should be their mantra.

Just one other thought--I completely discount any argument that WE were the reason the whole Dix Pix thing and Dead.net went belly-up. That's just a crock. The same folks who were giddy over the SBD's when they were available were also ponying up dough for the official releases from the vault. Show of hands for those who agree, if you haven't said so already.

If GDP couldn't make a go of it it's because as each year passes, there are fewer and fewer people in the general population interested in what the Dead did. And perhaps they were too slow getting to Download sales instead of CD's. But to blame the few who DID respond and eagerly awaited the official band releases--which were too slow in coming--is to bite the hand that feeds. We didn't kill the golden goose by DL-ing the SBD's--we (and specifically the good folks at LMA) kept the interest in the music alive and more vibrant than it was before by bringing those great shows to the forefront and reminding ourselves that there are treasures worth hunting,--and paying--for in the decades of shows the greatest live band ever performed.

Thanks for the soap box.

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Poster: ReddyKillowatt Date: Jul 14, 2006 8:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new york times article regarding rhino

I agree totally. People will lose interest in the music as time goes by. I wish it was different.

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Poster: Dancinbears Date: Jul 15, 2006 6:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new york times article regarding rhino

I had this post somewhere else and realized maybe I should post it here.... :)

Hi all! New here! I wanted to write. I sat down and read all these posts in a row, and it's obvious if you take a step back and see we're all really feeling the same thing. Nerous as hell about what Rhino getting involved is really going to mean. And only time will tell. There really is one at fault here...this was just a matter of time. The way I see it, what's the major difference now compared to years ago when the boys were younger?? No, not Jerry being alive, or them on tour....they are getting up there in years, and they know they won't live forever...they have wives, teenage and grown children, a lot of people that are probably influencing their decisions. It isn't just the 4 of them anymore, but their families as well. Maybe no one else agrees with my theory, but I think this may have something to do with a lot of the decisions lately...even a little bit. Any of you that are married will admit...how many times do you make a decision without talking it over with your spouse? There is no way for us to know the opinions of the wives and kids, and how much that has to do with it. Just a thought.

One thing I do want to say, even though it's been said before, is that there are LOTS of sites all over the internet with tons of people trading shows, willing to do BnP's, Vines, etc. A lot of the music is already out there, and the one thing about Deadheads is that we're kind, and know how to share. :) If you are new to the Dead and are disappointed now because you can't Download off the Archive, get in touch with me and I'll help you find the tunes.

As for Rhino and what this is going to mean now...lets hold our breaths together and hope!
~Dancinbears4me@yahoo.com

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